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Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.05.04 17:53:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Bolster Bomb is pointing out that a single blob mentality will be limited in its ability to defend against a large territory over a long period of time. With plexing, breaking up into smaller squads and spreading out to hit several at the same time is superior to having one blob move to plexGÇÖs individually, weGÇÖve seen this plenty already in the current system, nothingGÇÖs changing there. .
The amount of time it takes to flip a system is changing. This means the side that can form the bigger blob will be able to easilly undue anything these nimble fleets hope to accomplish.
Not 100% true. When we started taking Caldari space, we found that we couldn't really hold systems more than 3 jumps away from our main bases. People just get too tired of defending systems that far away and those systems are pretty meaningless. The dedicated plexers just couldn't defend all that space. Since their is no LP for defensive plexing, there will not be an influx of defensive plexers unless you target the system people live in. The real test will be how long it will really take to flip a system and if you can distract the few dedicated plexers on each side with a diversional assault long enough. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:08:00 -
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Damar Rocarion wrote:Andre Vauban wrote:People just get too tired of defending systems that far away and those systems are pretty meaningless. The dedicated plexers just couldn't defend all that space. You do understand that people have defended space so far for no reward, aside from caldari COSMOS grinds. Main reason dedicated plexers do what they do is simple. They hate each others gut so much they are willing to put up with that ****. Hell, one of them (who supposedly is a father of three daughters) recently infiltrated our voice comms and delivered a message to me, which was about half a minute rant of "f..ggot, c.nt, ba.tard" untill I laughed and muted him. Great example for your offspring by the way. But I digress. Best example is of course yours Black Onyx Society which is basicly one guy with 7 alts and his sole reason for doing it is because he hates me. He also likes to go apeshit in local whenever someone harasses his atron alts but that's another story.
Yes, I understand that there are the very few dedicated plexers doing the vast majority of the plexing. However, those few people cannot deplex systems that you are actively plexing with a small gang without backup from the pvpers. Those pvpers are currently very happy to come help for the hope of a fight. If there is no fight, they leave. If there was LP for defensive plexing, they would be willing to do that and stick around. Since there is no new reward, there will not be any new defensive plexers. The current defensive plexers just cannot defend the entire warzone by themselves.
Here is how it will work: Dedicated plexer: "WTs are coming into my plex in system XYZ" PVPers "XYZ is very close to me, on my way" or PVPers "XYZ is too far away. I'm going to fly all the way up there and get no fight nor any LP. I'm going to ignore you now and go back to something that involves making isk or blowing something up."
The attacking side will always have more plexers since there is incentive to plex. As long as the number of dedicated/diehard plexers doesn't change much and stay in relative balance, we should see a pretty stable warfront with neither side able to really hold large amounts of conquered systems.
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Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.05.05 20:07:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:amarr's 18 remaining systems (mostly in dumb places) means the amarr will be even less able to fight than they are now, so with that i expect my corp and a few others will have to reluctantly leave fw, real shame :(
Minnies have been plexing the hell out of the remaining systems since these changes hit sisi taking advantage the current 6-8 hour system flip rathe rthan the new one when the changes hit.
a system reset is the only way not to crush the amarr completely if ccp are serious about the changes.
oh well its been fun, so now how does one pirate in low sec?
Just base out of Minmatar highsec. That will become a very viable alternative if we can all rat ourselves up to -1.9
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Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:47:00 -
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Does anybody know how often the "Control Stats" are updated? There is absolutely no way we could hold the 10+ systems to level V to hit even the first tier of control upgrades. I forsee planned time events to plex and cash out LP stores by dumping LP into systems, farming like crazy, cashing out, and then doing nothing for several days. The other side can easily drain all your upgrades while you sleep. |
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